Florida’s Admissibility of Loss Conclusions in Marine Damage Claim Survey Reports

Hello. I wanted to write today about some legal opinions in Florida about the admissibility of loss conclusions by marine surveyors that survey vessel damage claims. This is meant to enlighten boat owners, other marine surveyors, and insurance claims handlers in what can happen in the courtroom or during any litigation in Florida when it comes to a damage claim on a boat or yacht.

In Florida, if not licensed in the state for a specific occupation (such as marine surveying) any loss conclusion that is written in a marine survey report can become inadmissible in court. This is because according to various case law and legal opinions, unless you hold a Florida Private Investigator’s License, a marine surveyor may not be legally qualified to write, analyze or comment about vessel accident reconstruction or loss conclusions.  Now remember I am not saying that marine surveyors are not qualified or able to realistically reverse engineer a vessel accident or write a conclusion about the cause of loss. This is about the games that are played in the courtroom and attorneys that find loopholes in the law and interpret case law and legal opinions to get factual, well written damage marine survey reports deemed inadmissible. A good attorney will know how to manipulate and spin doctor the intent of the law.

As a former U.S. Coast Guard Boarding Officer and a former Police Officer in the State of Florida I have had a lot of exposure to criminal and civil litigation in both the State and Federal courts. I have attended countless depositions and court appearances. I have seen well meaning cases with well intended causes get thrown out or judgments go the other side simply because the petitioners or respondents were not prepared or knowledgable of the case law and legal opinions that would render their action or defense inadmissible. Understand that in the courtroom it has very little to do with right or wrong, or who realistically is at fault (in spite of how obvious the convincing evidence or exhibits may be).  It is nothing more than a game. The opposing side will use any available case law, legal opinion or even your own evidence against you in court. If the evidence or exhibits are damning for the opposing side and there is no way to argue them, then the common strategy by attorneys is to get the evidence or exhibits thrown out by deeming them inadmissible. There are some very common cases of this such as the infamous O.J. Simpson Murder Trial in California and the more recent Casey Anthony Murder Trial in Orange County, Florida. Both were won by discrediting otherwise qualified professionals and having evidence and exhibits ruled inadmissible.

Although damage claim litigation is much less severe and on the civil level, these principles and mindsets still apply by any half way decent attorney.  In a study by Harris Technical Services,  they wrote the following on the subject:

“Florida’s Secretary of State has issued the following opinions on the subject. In Legal Opinion 94-1:

Engineers regulated by Chapter 471 (Professional Engineer) do not have to also be licensed under Chapter 493 (Private Investigator) if the engineer is providing services or expert advice in the profession for which he is licensed, e.g., engineering.

This goes to the question of whether traffic accident reconstruction is an engineering discipline, a police science discipline, a combination of both or more. Traffic accident reconstruction necessarily involves factors outside the scope of engineering such as collision avoidance, tire mark interpretation and human factors.

According to Fred Speaker, an enforcement investigator with the Florida Department of State, Division of Licensing, an engineering license does not cover accident reconstruction. If a licensed engineer engages in the typical activities of accident reconstruction, skid testing, evidence collection, surveying accident sites, etc., then a private investigator’s license is required.

Michele Guy, Assistant General Counsel with the Florida Dept. of State, responded to a request for clarification from the author. In this letter, dated January 4, 2001, Ms. Guy states:

“Pursuant to your request and our conversations, I am writing to confirm that, as a general rule, traffic accident reconstructionists are not required to hold private investigator licenses. If, however, you intend to interview witnesses, perform surveillances, or provide any other routine private investigative services, you would be required to hold private investigator licenses.”

Legal Opinion 97-9 examines the issue of providing services outside the traditional bounds of the licensed activity:

The Florida statutes provide that any person who holds a professional license under the laws of this state, and when such person is providing services or expert advice in the profession or occupation in which that person is so licensed, is exempt from private investigator licensing requirements. Thus, a licensed accountant would be permitted to perform forensic accounting without a private investigator’s license. Not all investigative services can be performed under his accounting license. The investigative activity of surveillance, for example, is not an activity which accountants normally perform. Thus, if the accountant performed surveillance he would need a private investigator’s license.

Legal Opinion 97-5 addresses a safety consultant determining the cause of an accident:

A contract safety consultant, who’s primary function is safety training and workplace inspections, occasionally conducts an investigation when an employee has been injured on the job to determine the cause of the accident. In the Florida statutes, private investigation includes investigation for the purpose of obtaining information with reference to ‘the business of securing evidence to be used . . . in the trial of civil . . . cases and the preparation therefor.’ If the investigation is related to litigation, a private investigator’s license is required.

With this interpretation, the engineering licensee’s activities may be restricted to traditional engineering factors. Data collection, analysis or expert advice beyond the scope of engineering, as defined in the state law, would be unlicensed activity.

In 1980, George Firestone, Florida Secretary of State, issued a Declaratory Statement (DS 80-04) on the subject of private investigator licensing for scientific and technical investigations. The statement includes:

“The Department of State concurs that Kennard v. Rosenberg, [see footnote 9] is persuasive, and that when taken together with the previously cited Attorney General’s Opinion (1967 Op. Att’y. Gen. Fla., 067-1) and Florida Supreme Court Court case (Segal v. Simpson, 121 So. 2d 790 (Fla. 1960), demonstrates that the intent of the Legislature in writing Chapter 493 was not to require every person conducting technical and scientific investigations into the causes of physical phenomena or events to first obtain a private investigator’s license.”

You can see by these legal opinions how this can apply to a loss conclusion in a marine survey report. I know that every marine surveyor may not agree with me on this subject and I am sure many of the older surveyors may have been involved with dozens of court cases where the survey reports were not deemed inadmissible. However without a Florida Private Investigator’s License, reconstructing a vessel accident or stating a loss conclusion that may be deemed to be outside of the surveyors expertise and may leave the Client and Marine Surveyor open to have the survey report (most likely the most important exhibit and proof of the cause of loss) thrown out during litigation. I have seen examples of this with my own eyes in the courtroom many times on cases I thought would otherwise be “slam dunks.”

As an active practicing marine surveyor, I hold a Florida Private Investigator’s License. I write every damage marine survey report in detail, with plenty of photographs included in the report, along with any other written estimates, witness statement or drawn diagrams I can obtain to solidify my reports and support my loss conclusions. I write every survey report (whether it be a pre-purchase, insurance, valuation or damage claim survey report) with the mindset that someday the report may be displayed six feet high on an overhead projector in some courtroom and I am on the witness stand defending what I wrote. That is the reality of our modern world. Not only do I want to ensure everything I write will be admissible based on my credentials, but I can be convincing based upon the content of my report.

If you are a marine surveyor, I recommend you look into obtaining a private investigator’s license if this pertains to your state to in order to cover yourself on this angle. The expense and time involved is fairly cheap (less than $1000.00 in most cases).  My philosophy is simply “better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it.” It only adds credibility to your marine surveying business. If I were a boat owner involved in a loss on my boat, I would specifically seek a marine surveyor that had the proper credentials, experience, and a private investigator’s license to insure that the findings from the survey would be admissible if the loss went into litigation.

As for the boat owners and insurance handlers reading this, this is something to think about and remember,  just in case.

Until I write again, be well and fair winds.

Very Sincerely,

Capt. John Banister
Suenos Azules Marine Surveying and Consulting
4521 PGA Boulevard, Suite 461
Palm Beach Gardens, Florida 33418
(561) 255-4139

About suenosazules

I own and operate a marine surveying and consulting firm based in Palm Beach Gardens, Florida. We offer pre-purchase, insurance, valuation, damage claim, marine engine diagnostics, and ultrasonic marine surveys. I also provide service and repair services for gasoline outboard and inboard engines. I am a USCG licensed master captain and provide charter and yacht deliveries for both power and sailing vessels. We provide our services in the United States, the Caribbean Islands, Puerto Rico, Belize, and Costa Rica. We specialize in surveying and inspecting boats for overseas buyers in Europe, Asia, Australia, and Africa. I am a SAMS® Accredited Marine Surveyor, ABYC® Standards Accredited, a Yamaha Certified Outboard Engine Technician, a Mercury / MerCruiser Certified Technician, a Honda Certified Outboard Engine Technician, a ITC® Certified Level II Thermographer, holds a USPAP® Certificate on Appraisal Standards, a USCG Licensed Master Captain, and a member of SAMS®, ABYC®, IAMI®, and the NFPA®.
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